I have a PS3 and a XBOX 360 with HD DVD unit. Both have great picture and sound but it always came down to enjoying using HD DVD. I never had problem with any I rented or bought. That can not be said for Blu-ray disc. I see myself waiting up to a year or more before they offer a complete Blu-ray player. Quality of a product is what matters most. I still enjoy my Denon DVD-5900. Furthermore, I am finding that I use my DVR to record movies from HDNET Movies and those are fantastic! Much better than dropping down $25-$35 for Blu-ray.

Un-believeable!!! The demise of HD-DVD is a GREAT loss for consumers who were not allowed a choice between which format they preferred (i.e. Beta vs. VHS in the 1980s). The greedy studios (and Sony, among Blu-Ray manufacturers) preferred profit over quality. (HD-DVD is STILL better than Blu-Ray). I hope another format comes along (and soon) that embarasses the studios et al and make Blu-Ray suffer the same fate as Laser Discs.

I like the experience with HD-DVD better, less bugs, finalized players. I think HD-DVD screwed up with the cost of the discs. One of their main points was that it would be cheaper to manufacture HD-DVD discs than Blu-Ray, yet we the consumer were stuck paying ungodly prices for the discs and still are. Even Amazon's 50% off sale a lot of discs were still $19.99 and most of the movies I already own on DVD. But as usual we get the screws by the industry. Now Blu-Ray will have no reason to drop disc prices and until they do regular DVD is going to be the format of choice for the majority of the population. Me, I own both players and only buy movies when they are on sale. As far as downloaded movies, I don't think that is a viable format. All the people I know just want to buy the disc and play it and not go through the hassles that will accompany downloads.

I did'nt buy my first HD DVD player until after Warner went Blu-ray exclusively and Toshiba lowered prices. I was able to buy two players for $130 each. I figured, what the heck, its at least a good upconverting player. When HD DVD finally died, at least I had a backup player. What I did not count on was Netflix dropping the format. Until the prices of Blu-ray disc come down to the price of regular DVDs, I don't think I will go Blu-ray. I now have no intention of joining Netflix. What I am hoping for are some great clearance sales on HD DVDs. If that doesn't happen, so be it. I new that I had joined a losing battle. The big problem I see with both formats was the exhorbitant prices of the disc. Though they are better than DVDs, they are not that much better. It is not the day night difference there was between DVD and VHS. I have no intention of wholesale replacement of my existing DVDs.

Great news! I'm sorry for those that picked the wrong horse, but my experience with Blu-Ray has been rock-solid and fantastic. My PS3 has not had one problem playing a disc. I've been able to partake in many a BOGO sale. I've purchased most of my BD's that were not BOGO for under $20 with price-matching and buying from the various on-line retailers. It's been a great experience. I think that Blu-Ray player prices will drop as more people buy and the standalones will become much more stable. If you can't wait, buy the PS3.

HD-DVD seemed to be the more mature hardware platform with fewer bugs. The lack of multiple manufacturers hurt them though, since Toshiba was the only brand available. If I was a neophyte consumer, the lack of multiple player manufacturers would cause me to think the format was lame out of the gate. Oh, and having Disney as an exclusive in the Blu-Ray camp didn't hurt. Now on to the real competition. Blu-Ray vs upscaling DVDs...

Claude has it right on the money...Blu Ray has ALWAYS been the better platform, supported by more studios from the get-go, and always been assured of this final outcome. I still cannot believe the brainless twits that bought HD DVD hardware and movies in spite of it's certainty of defeat. Apparently, the authors of the first two posts fit into the above category...isn't it amazing how grown (supposedly) men can sound like tempermental little schoolgirls?? The demise of HD DVD is a GREAT victory and totally BELIEVABLE...to those of us with any brains!

It seems fitting that I received my 5 FREE HD-DVD movies from Toshiba on the same day they announce its demise. I got the HD-DVD player because it was cheap. Serves me right.

I wonder if this isn't the death of HD on disc. It's not that I think downloads will kill Blu-Ray (that is another issues entirely that is currently as clear as mud). I think that Blu-ray will kill Blu-Ray. The only BD player that is even remotely relavent to the average consumer (not the high-end buyer that frequents sites like this, myself included) is the PS3 because of its reasonable pricing. Unfortunately if you are over the age of 30 you are not likely to consider a game console as your player. Until BD players come down to the price levels that the HD DVD players have reached in there dying days, I think the mass acceptance that is required to drive down media prices and in turn fuel BD player sales is a long way off. I wish Blu-Ray the best but I wonder if it's days are not also numbered unless the powers at the BD manufacturers start to price as aggressively as Toshiba did (a tough financial call if Toshiba is any example but probably what the market needs).

No one else will say it so I will, pricing in HD disc media is not over priced. DVD's are under priced and fell into a commodity type of pricing which the studios don't want to see again. Yes the studios want profit( like you would want to work for free). HD should be something better to be aspired to as more people come into it the prices of equipment and discs come down and selection goes up. Most things the public is thought to believe are not what they actually believe. It's not about consumer choice it's about customer choice. Being a customer is empowerment, being a consumer is being dealt to. The customer's have spoken and that was what Warner saw. Nay sayers are free to play with their upconverted SD discs and future will move along nicely without you. And if you think I'm a blu fanboy I'm not all my discs are red but I am a realist. Reality seems to be coming in shades of Blu right about now.

Blu-Ray is the superior format and Sony made the right choice when they included the capability with the PS3. If Microsoft had included HD DVD by default with the Xbox360 I think things would have turned out differently. PS3 is really a bargain if you use all of it's capabilities even if you don't play any games.

Dan - I am way over 30 and I own the PS3. I bought the PS3 because of it's easy firmware updateability,fast load times, and great reviews. As to prices of HW, you can buy standalones for under $400 at Costco and Amazon. You are right that prices need to come down to between $200 - $300 for entry-level machines so that it;s easier for folks to make the spur of the moment purchase. I expect these prices sooner then later as the manufacturers will want to take advantage of the victory and it's attention.

There are two big problems with both formats. One is that the movies are too expensive and the second is confusion With the exception of some Warner combo disc, they are not backward compatible. A friend said his wife bought a Harry Potter disc as a Christmas gift for their kids not realizing it was Blu-ray and not paying attention to the price at the checkout. She took it back to Target after Christmas, where she was told it happens a lot. My guess is that soon someone will come out with something a little bigger than a compact flash card that stores entire movies. It will have no moving parts and can be added easily to the side of flatpanel TVs with the only cable being one to carry audio from TV to receiver. It will never be confused with a DVD. For older TVs there will be something about the size of a floppy disc reader that reads the data. You will be able to rent them from a Redbox that can now store entire studio catalogues.

I own a Panasonic DMP-BD10a and a Toshiba HD-A2. I like HDDVD better than Blu-ray....lower prices all around (I did get the Panasonic for $236...not too bad) and a better catalog of movies. I'm sorry to see it go. I think Blu-ray will be a viable format....HD downloads...not going to be a big player like some people think they will be.

I am a great fan of Hollywood; I love to watch movies. In a few months I will purchase a house. I would love to set up a home theater in my new home and have a collection of HD films, however, I refuse to pay the current high prices for HD films. They will have to come down considerably before I start buying them. I work too hard for my money to pay $30 for a film. Also most of the movies in HD are mediocre films. When will they put classic films like the Godfather in HD?

I can't believe HD is no more.For most people disc space is not a concern when watching a movie.I don't care if it's double layered or whatever so long as the entire movie is on the disc.The current cost of most Blu-Ray players is way too much compared to the Toshibas.I may buy one of the A35's anyway just in case the studios keep turning out HD DVD's.From what I've read the Blu-Rays need firmware updates and the Toshiba's are running fine right out of the box.This debate/fight was nothing more than an exercise in greed.I can always watch movies on my PC.

I personally am saddened to see HD DVD go the way of the Dodo. I was fortunate (unfortunate?) enough to have owned a player for each format thanks to eBay. Unequivocally, HD DVD was the better format in my opinion. The picture and sound was universally better than most Blu-Ray discs. Moreover, HD DVD came with interactive menus and other features ready from the start. My impression was that Sony rushed the format to market in order to compete with Toshiba, but they brought the masses an incomplete product. Will Blu-Ray eventually live up to the promise? I would like to think so - especially since that is what we are left with. Moral of this story is that its not a matter quality, but more of factor of deep your pockets go as evidenced by Warner's jump to Sony. As a final note, to PlasmaDude: Please take your "fanboyism" and pointless rhetoric to a gamer forum where it may not actually fall on deaf ears; the adults here are busy talking... go play somewhere else.

Dear Micheal, do likewise. P.S. BR and HD picture and sound are for all intents and purposes, essentially the same. Limited only by disk size, the bigger the disk, the better each can be.

I have owned both formats since their inception (HDD1,PS3,HDA2,HDA35). To say that blewray, er bluray, was the best format is ludicrous. Most of the transfers on bluray appear only slightly better than my toshibas upconverted standard dvd version, conversely, HDDVD transfers are/were almost always pristine. Hddvd started out using VC1 while bluray stuck with MPEG2, which needed way more space to fit an hd movie, not a great way to utilize the only thing it had going for it that was better than hddvd. Hddvd gave you the combo format, play the hd version in your main theater room and the dvd version in the bedroom, laptop, whatever. Not to mention the updatablility built in to every hddvd player that no stand alone bluray players had, even at much higher prices. My $600 PS3 won't pass thru Dolby True HD but my $200 HDA35 does. Sure, it's so obvious the better forHTTP/1.1 302 Found

Jody - I disagree with you completely. Some Blu-Ray as well as HD DVD transfers were not very good, but most, if not all of the transfers on both formats are now overall excellent. There is also nothing wrong with MPEG2 or any of they other codecs as long as the transfer comes from the right source and is done correctly. You can have very poor VC1 also - garbage in, garbage out.

While I am certainly glad the format war is over, I feel like Toshiba got the short end of the stick. I hate to bring up the games consoles, because they shouldnt have anything to do with an HD movie format, but I feel like they played a really pivotal roll in all of this. HD-DVD did everything better right out of the gate, and it feels the studios at some point had (to flip a coin to decide which format to go with, or speculated that the PS3 would be the reason to go Blu. I guarantee if Microsoft had put a HD-DVD drive in the Xbox 360, HD-DVD would have won. Most gamers (at least in the USA) feel that the 360 is a much better platform. I always liked the HD-DVD platform a little better, I dont know why, but the discs seemed to look a tiny bit better overall than blu-ray discs I bought, and I was using the HDDVD drive for the Xbox (connected via component cables)! You would think the PS3 (connected via HDMI) would give a better picture, (and for the most part it does regarding the PS3 menues etc.)..

To continue my thought (sorry!),except for the loud fan on the Xbox 360, I enjoyed the user experiece best with HD-DVD, but Blu-ray is not so bad I can really complain. Both offer stunning picture and sound, and I am glad now that Blu-ray has the opportunity to take off. Right now, I think that downloads and Blu-ray can co-exist happily. Being an enthusiast, I am far more excited about Blu-ray than downloads, but for renting movies, HD downloads from Xbox Live can be surprisingly decent looking. Unfortunately the selection isn't that good yet, and the quality is really spotty. Non-HD downloads are pretty poor most of the time, so I still keep a Netflix account going. I am considering the Apple TV for the better selection, and music capabilities, but I honestly don't end up downloading much video content most of the time, so it probably isn't worth it quite yet.

I guess we all get taken again by the Sony monster. I have a dual player (LG-200) and I know that HD-DVD is superior! I guess what is really driving this mess is the fact that with Blue Ray, you can only watch them on your Blue Ray player, where the dual format HD-DVD you can enjoy them also on your computer and in your vehicle that is equiped with a player. The studios want to sell 2 of everything instead of one that works in all players! This "war" had gone on long enough and it is sad that it is the consumers that ultimately get taken for the ride!!!Sad, sad, sad!

I am keeping my HD-XA2, a hell of a player, HD-DVD or upconverting! The upconverting capability of it is unmatched by any other player (Reon chip on board) ...and my HD-DVD collection will keep on playing no matter if the format is dead or not, so to me it does not matter that the format died, I will still enjoy Transformers for example in all its HD glory for years to come. HD-DVD should have been the winning format, since it was ready from the start, worked great also from the start, and Toshiba had more reasonable prices, not as greedy as the Sony/Blue Ray bunch, which in the end had their format win by pushing a gaming console matted with their player (and Toshiba not matching that factor)....and lots of bribe money to studios. I will get into Blue Ray but after their prices AND their players get it right ...perhaps in the upcoming 2.0 players... but I want to make sure they work as good as my HD-XA2.

I'm guessing that Plasmadude likes grabbing his ankles for companies like Sony. In my opinion, one of Toshiba's biggest mistake was made when naming their product. With a surge of HD-upconverting players(1080i/1080p/60) on the rise, unaware consumers did not differentiate between the new and the old. It is extremely sad that the superior format didn't win. I mean how sad is it when you go into a store like best buy, and want to see a demo, but all blu-ray players are playing animations. It's the cheapest demo, and if I'm in a store I refuse to watch them because I need to see real life images to judge a medium. Many blu-ray movies look no better than SD-dvd. Almost every HD-dvd(almost because I haven't seen all of them) look like there is a step up on SD-dvd. And why are people so obsessed with memory, audio and video files will never need all that memory, OH I'm sorry that is for special features like 10 different previews. Great, the $35 went to good use. Microsoft also let HD-

It's all about the disc! It always has been. That's why Blu-Ray won. In Japan, over 90% of the poeple buying an HD player chose Blu-Ray! Storage space duh! As a computer animator, I can certianly use one of those comming 100Gig disc's! Some of you sore losers that are desperate to keep the HD-DVD system going are fools! All of the major studios have(or are about to) switched to Blu-Ray now. Toshiba called it quits even after they ate the profits from their players and they still couldn't win. Time to lick your wounds and get your Blu-Ray player. I recommend the PS3.

not feel bad hd is hd, from here to next years you can still enjoying your favorites films in 1080p. right now you can buy low priced disc in HD-dvd and players. Si creo que la transición de DVD a HD era menos violenta con los precios mas cómodos del HD-DVD, y la calidad de los formatos es prácticamente idéntica, hoy en día lo recomendable es buscar un backup comprando otro reproductor y utilizándolo como un doble-propósito para upscaling...

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